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Pedigree for RW JOYKATZ JOY TO THE WORLD

COI Paths

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Pedigree for RW JOYKATZ JOY TO THE WORLD (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.93%
QGC JOYKATZ BEAMER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.749%	NEMESIS ROCOCO (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.255%	NEMESIS ESPECIAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.685%	GRC NIGHTVISIONS SPECIAL EFFECTS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.222%	KENDAR TIGER OF WILDSPOTS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 40.234%
				NEMESIS WILD HONEY OF NIGHTVISIONS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.141%
			TSUNAMI OF NEMESIS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.438%	MILLWOOD PREDICTION II (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%
				TABBATHA ANNE TIGGER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 50%
		NEMESIS BLACK PEARL (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 22.311%	JOYKATZ TADUSHU OF NATUREWORKS (M) SEAL LYNX (TABBY) POINT COI: 27.954%	CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%
				FLYINGWFARM CAJUN SNOW (F) SEAL SEPIA MARBLED TABBY COI: 30.469%
			SUNBRIGHT COPPERLINE (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.804%	BENGALINE ZYDECO SUNBRIGHT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.074%
				SUNBRIGHT TIGER LILY (F) BROWN (BLACK) CLASSIC TABBY COI: 19.141%
	SOLAR ECLIPSE OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 25.22%	DESERTROSE GOLDEN SPOTTED (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.414%	LIONSMOUNTAIN BENJAMIN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 31.25%	MILLWOOD ARIES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%
				MILLWOOD AURORA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%
			CLEOPATRA ROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.625%	MILLWOOD CAMUS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%
				MILLWOOD CHILI MOLE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 6.25%
		DESERTROSE RUNNING PRINCESS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 21.68%	LIONSMOUNTAIN DESERT SUNRISE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 18.359%	MILLWOOD FIRESIDE VIEW OF SNOWBEAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 29.688%
				LIONSMOUNTAIN BELLA OF MOVADOS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY
			MILLWOOD SHIMMER OF DESERTROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%	MILLWOOD ARIES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%
				MILLWOOD BITTA FIEFIELD (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 6.25%
RW SGC JOYKATZ NEW MILLENIUM (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.935%	RW SGC JOYKATZ ACE INDA HOLE OF ERASER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 30.894%	JOYKATZ BANDIDO ROSATTA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.833%	CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%	GOGEES HURRICANE FORCE OF VASHTI (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.414%
				KIMBA LEE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.828%
			JEWELIARD MARILYN OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.516%	LEOPARKHAN TANGA TU OF JEWELIARD (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.199%
				RIOBENGAL JUNGLE JASMINE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 40.625%
		EPSILON HERSHEY KISSES OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 21.839%	JUNGLEBOOK CAPT MARBLE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 32.178%	STARBENGAL FLYNN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.129%
				JUNGLEBOOK FIRE OPALE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.297%
			JOYKATZ SCOOT (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.877%	CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%
				FLYINGWFARM CAJIN KISSES (F) SEAL SEPIA MARBLED TABBY COI: 14.062%
	JOYKATZ VICTORY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.5%	JOYKATZ FINALLY FABIO OF FRAGAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.53%	QGC JOYKATZ LAMBOZ DIABLO OF HUGABLE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 18.921%	CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%
				SOLAR ECLIPSE OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 25.22%
			JOYKATZ AMBER MOON (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 20.898%	JOYKATZ NEON MOON OF SUITE (M) SEAL MINK MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.877%
				BRADOT SHEBA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.297%
		JOYKATZ DEJA VU OF NODNGAIT (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 10.699%	CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%	GOGEES HURRICANE FORCE OF VASHTI (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.414%
				KIMBA LEE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.828%
			ALUREN HELEN WHEELS OF TARIQAT/JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY	PHANTOM (M) ALC
				WINDSTORM SHANZI OF ALUREN (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.336%

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Pedigree for RW JOYKATZ JOY TO THE WORLD (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.93%

QGC JOYKATZ BEAMER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.749%

RW SGC JOYKATZ NEW MILLENIUM (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.935%

NEMESIS ROCOCO (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.255%

SOLAR ECLIPSE OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 25.22%

RW SGC JOYKATZ ACE INDA HOLE OF ERASER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 30.894%

JOYKATZ VICTORY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.5%

NEMESIS ESPECIAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.685%

NEMESIS BLACK PEARL (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 22.311%

DESERTROSE GOLDEN SPOTTED (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.414%

DESERTROSE RUNNING PRINCESS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 21.68%

JOYKATZ BANDIDO ROSATTA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.833%

EPSILON HERSHEY KISSES OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 21.839%

JOYKATZ FINALLY FABIO OF FRAGAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.53%

JOYKATZ DEJA VU OF NODNGAIT (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 10.699%

GRC NIGHTVISIONS SPECIAL EFFECTS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.222%

TSUNAMI OF NEMESIS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.438%

JOYKATZ TADUSHU OF NATUREWORKS (M) SEAL LYNX (TABBY) POINT COI: 27.954%

SUNBRIGHT COPPERLINE (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.804%

LIONSMOUNTAIN BENJAMIN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 31.25%

CLEOPATRA ROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.625%

LIONSMOUNTAIN DESERT SUNRISE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 18.359%

MILLWOOD SHIMMER OF DESERTROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%

CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%

JEWELIARD MARILYN OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.516%

JUNGLEBOOK CAPT MARBLE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 32.178%

JOYKATZ SCOOT (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.877%

QGC JOYKATZ LAMBOZ DIABLO OF HUGABLE (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 18.921%

JOYKATZ AMBER MOON (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 20.898%

CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%

ALUREN HELEN WHEELS OF TARIQAT/JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY

KENDAR TIGER OF WILDSPOTS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 40.234%

NEMESIS WILD HONEY OF NIGHTVISIONS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.141%

MILLWOOD PREDICTION II (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%

TABBATHA ANNE TIGGER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 50%

CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%

FLYINGWFARM CAJUN SNOW (F) SEAL SEPIA MARBLED TABBY COI: 30.469%

BENGALINE ZYDECO SUNBRIGHT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.074%

SUNBRIGHT TIGER LILY (F) BROWN (BLACK) CLASSIC TABBY COI: 19.141%

MILLWOOD ARIES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%

MILLWOOD AURORA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%

MILLWOOD CAMUS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.062%

MILLWOOD CHILI MOLE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 6.25%

MILLWOOD FIRESIDE VIEW OF SNOWBEAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 29.688%

LIONSMOUNTAIN BELLA OF MOVADOS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY

MILLWOOD ARIES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25%

MILLWOOD BITTA FIEFIELD (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 6.25%

GOGEES HURRICANE FORCE OF VASHTI (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.414%

KIMBA LEE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.828%

LEOPARKHAN TANGA TU OF JEWELIARD (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.199%

RIOBENGAL JUNGLE JASMINE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 40.625%

STARBENGAL FLYNN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.129%

JUNGLEBOOK FIRE OPALE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.297%

CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%

FLYINGWFARM CAJIN KISSES (F) SEAL SEPIA MARBLED TABBY COI: 14.062%

CH NOLA LAMBORGHINI OF JOYKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 33.252%

SOLAR ECLIPSE OF JOYKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 25.22%

JOYKATZ NEON MOON OF SUITE (M) SEAL MINK MARBLED TABBY COI: 23.877%

BRADOT SHEBA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.297%

GOGEES HURRICANE FORCE OF VASHTI (M) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.414%

KIMBA LEE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.828%

PHANTOM (M) ALC

WINDSTORM SHANZI OF ALUREN (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.336%

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