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Pedigree for ANGELO OF HANDSONNENBERG

COI Paths

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Pedigree for ANGELO OF HANDSONNENBERG (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.379%
SHIRKHAN OF HANDSONNENBERG (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.865%	RUSLANE ROMEO (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.348%	CH BROCKENMOOR BROM (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 34.527%	BROCKENMOOR SPLENDOR SPIRIT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.736%	BROCKENMOOR NATHAN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.683%
				BROCKENMOOR MANYA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.194%
			BROCKENMOOR CALIMERA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.459%	MAJESTICPRIDE DEWAYN OF BROCKENMOOR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.599%
				BROCKENMOOR KIM MARVEL (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.788%
		OLEANDER YUKATA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: HCM EQ COI: 26.143%	CH PURRSONALITY MIKADO OF OLEANDER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.653%	CH KOPPIEKATZ KOOL KAT OF FAKIRBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.936%
				LEOPARD PRINTZCESS OF PURRSONALITY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.419%
			DESTINYBENGALS DRAGONNA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 33.02%	DESTINYBENGALS BLACKSTAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.658%
				DESTINYBENGALS MIRAGE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.143%
	CH VIOLA D'ANORE OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.899%	GRC ASTARTE FAVORITE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: HCM POS COI: 25.129%	SUMMERSIDE EQUINOXE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.816%	RW SGC JUNGLEJEM SASHA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.757%
				SUMMERSIDE SERENITY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.354%
			AMANTRA MYSTERE OF ASTARTE (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 27.317%	GRC CALCATTA SUPERNATURAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.679%
				AMANTRA GYPSY ROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.399%
		ISABELLA OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.382%	CH ASTARTE BOLIVARR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.559%	CH SUMMERSIDE SUNSHINE OF ASTARTE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.873%
				ABUNDADOTS MINNIE OF ASTARTE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.349%
			CH RIVIERA SKARLET OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.736%	GRC SILVERSAFARI SONOFKHAN OF RIVIERA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.486%
				GLITTERGLAM RIVIERA SUNSET (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 33.011%
AZANABENGALS ATLANTIS SENSATION (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.326%	CH KOPPIEKATZ KOOL KAT OF FAKIRBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.936%	RW QGC KOPPIEKATZ CUSTOM IMAGE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.645%	RW SGC CALCATTA CUSTOM MADE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.66%	SILVERGENE SPLENDOR OF STARBENGAL (M) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.995%
				KATANGA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.181%
			KOPPIEKATZ SHADOW DANCER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.863%	LA SGC MILLWOOD ISCHIRON OF DREAMLAND (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.995%
				KOPPIEKATZ SHADY LADY (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.569%
		CALCATTA KAHLUA OF KOPPIEKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.66%	SILVERGENE SPLENDOR OF STARBENGAL (M) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.995%	RW QGC DICAPRIO OF STARBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.783%
				EEYAA STERLING SILVER OF SILVERGENE (F) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 9.347%
			KATANGA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.181%	OS CH MILLWOOD ITALIAN FILIGREE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.198%
				KOPPIEKATZ CLEOPATRA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.225%
	DAZZLEDOTS FANCY STEPPER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.929%	Unknown	IW SGC KATZNJAMR INKOSI OF KOSIKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.387%	MILLWOOD BAKARI OF KATZNJAMR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.749%
				ABUNDADOTS SAKURA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 20.244%
			MERKABA COVERGIRL OF GOGEES (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.632%	RW TGC JUMANJI LIGHTNING STRIKES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: UNCLASSIFIED CARDIOMYOPATHIE COI: 25.471%
				MERKABA SILVER SABER (F) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 21.462%
		AZANABENGALS STARDUST DANCER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.279%	MEDOZ JUNGLE LEGEND OF AZANABENGALS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 30.489%	RW QGC MEDOZ MALIFOSCENT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.62%
				SPEAKEASY GODIVA OF MEDOZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.885%
			BROCKENMOOR STAR OF AZANABENGALS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.23%	RW DGC BROCKENMOOR PACIFIC OCEAN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.857%
				CH BROCKENMOOR SWEET LITTLE SHEELA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.173%

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Pedigree for ANGELO OF HANDSONNENBERG (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.379%

SHIRKHAN OF HANDSONNENBERG (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.865%

AZANABENGALS ATLANTIS SENSATION (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.326%

RUSLANE ROMEO (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.348%

CH VIOLA D'ANORE OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.899%

CH KOPPIEKATZ KOOL KAT OF FAKIRBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.936%

DAZZLEDOTS FANCY STEPPER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.929%

CH BROCKENMOOR BROM (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 34.527%

OLEANDER YUKATA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: HCM EQ COI: 26.143%

GRC ASTARTE FAVORITE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: HCM POS COI: 25.129%

ISABELLA OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.382%

RW QGC KOPPIEKATZ CUSTOM IMAGE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.645%

CALCATTA KAHLUA OF KOPPIEKATZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.66%

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AZANABENGALS STARDUST DANCER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.279%

BROCKENMOOR SPLENDOR SPIRIT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.736%

BROCKENMOOR CALIMERA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.459%

CH PURRSONALITY MIKADO OF OLEANDER (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.653%

DESTINYBENGALS DRAGONNA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 33.02%

SUMMERSIDE EQUINOXE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.816%

AMANTRA MYSTERE OF ASTARTE (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 27.317%

CH ASTARTE BOLIVARR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.559%

CH RIVIERA SKARLET OF HANDSONNENBERG (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.736%

RW SGC CALCATTA CUSTOM MADE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.66%

KOPPIEKATZ SHADOW DANCER (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.863%

SILVERGENE SPLENDOR OF STARBENGAL (M) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.995%

KATANGA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.181%

IW SGC KATZNJAMR INKOSI OF KOSIKATZ (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.387%

MERKABA COVERGIRL OF GOGEES (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.632%

MEDOZ JUNGLE LEGEND OF AZANABENGALS (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 30.489%

BROCKENMOOR STAR OF AZANABENGALS (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.23%

BROCKENMOOR NATHAN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.683%

BROCKENMOOR MANYA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.194%

MAJESTICPRIDE DEWAYN OF BROCKENMOOR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.599%

BROCKENMOOR KIM MARVEL (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.788%

CH KOPPIEKATZ KOOL KAT OF FAKIRBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 32.936%

LEOPARD PRINTZCESS OF PURRSONALITY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.419%

DESTINYBENGALS BLACKSTAR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.658%

DESTINYBENGALS MIRAGE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.143%

RW SGC JUNGLEJEM SASHA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.757%

SUMMERSIDE SERENITY (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.354%

GRC CALCATTA SUPERNATURAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.679%

AMANTRA GYPSY ROSE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.399%

CH SUMMERSIDE SUNSHINE OF ASTARTE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.873%

ABUNDADOTS MINNIE OF ASTARTE (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 27.349%

GRC SILVERSAFARI SONOFKHAN OF RIVIERA (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.486%

GLITTERGLAM RIVIERA SUNSET (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 33.011%

SILVERGENE SPLENDOR OF STARBENGAL (M) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 15.995%

KATANGA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 19.181%

LA SGC MILLWOOD ISCHIRON OF DREAMLAND (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 26.995%

KOPPIEKATZ SHADY LADY (F) BROWN (BLACK) MARBLED TABBY COI: 24.569%

RW QGC DICAPRIO OF STARBENGAL (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 24.783%

EEYAA STERLING SILVER OF SILVERGENE (F) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 9.347%

OS CH MILLWOOD ITALIAN FILIGREE (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 29.198%

KOPPIEKATZ CLEOPATRA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 14.225%

MILLWOOD BAKARI OF KATZNJAMR (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 23.749%

ABUNDADOTS SAKURA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 20.244%

RW TGC JUMANJI LIGHTNING STRIKES (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY HCM: UNCLASSIFIED CARDIOMYOPATHIE COI: 25.471%

MERKABA SILVER SABER (F) BLACK SILVER SPOTTED TABBY COI: 21.462%

RW QGC MEDOZ MALIFOSCENT (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.62%

SPEAKEASY GODIVA OF MEDOZ (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 25.885%

RW DGC BROCKENMOOR PACIFIC OCEAN (M) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 22.857%

CH BROCKENMOOR SWEET LITTLE SHEELA (F) BROWN (BLACK) SPOTTED TABBY COI: 28.173%

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